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Lays and Backing Horses

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1:19 pm
23 May 2010


BrianH

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Post edited 6:16 pm – 23 May 2010 by BrianH


I've been working on producing some ratings for myself, initially to try and highlight LAY bets, but I also think the ratings can be used to highlight BET horses in the same races. I'll concentrate on one meeting per day and I'll post my findings on here. I have noticed the LAY ratings can sometimes give multiple selections in the same races, which is not so bad either, as if you have four selections you know for sure three will get beat, even if the other does win. I'll use Betfair SP as a base for settling the bets.

Sunday 23rd May…………………meeting is BATH

2.35 No Lay

2.35 Back – Kingsdine………………Won @ 5.63

3.05 Lay – Sunny Future, Lucy's Perfect, Hatch A Plan, Aspirational…………Lost @ 4.3, Win, Win, Win.

3.05 Back – Four Kicks…………….Lost

3.35 Lay – Spinning Waters……..Win

3.35 Back – The Dial House………Lost

4.10 Lay – Wrighty Almighty……Win

4.10 Back – Full Victory……………Lost

4.45 Lay – Ladies Dancing………Win

4.45 Back – Brandy Butter………Lost

5.20 Lay – Misaro………………….Win

5.20 Back – Beat The Bell…………Lost

7:18 pm
23 May 2010


BrianH

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Overall, not a bad start with Profit from the LAYS, and a small loss on the BACK selections.

LAYS………..Profit to date 3.35pts

BACK………..Loss to date -0.37pts

1:40 pm
24 May 2010


BrianH

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Post edited 5:09 pm – 24 May 2010 by BrianH


Monday 24th May

Today's Meeting……….Carlisle

LAYS (lost = a winning Bet)

2.45 Kings Point……………………lost

3.15 Ponting………………………..lost

3.45 Cygnet Committee………..lost

4.15 Hedgerow……………………lost

4.45 Fyodorovich…………………lost

5.15 Custard Cream Kid………..lost

BACK BETS

2.45 Moody Tunes

3.15 Ace Of Spies

3.45 Wedding Dream………….1st @ 22.22

4.15 Coolella

4.45 Two Turtle Doves

5.15 Desert Hunter

A good day for the LAYS, with them all getting beat. Thats 13 from 14 in the first two days.

Also a good result with The Back Bet, with only one winner at a very nice price.

Lays………Profit to date + 9.35pts

Back………Profit to date +15.85pts

1:09 pm
25 May 2010


BrianH

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Post edited 4:24 pm – 25 May 2010 by BrianH


Tuesday 25th May……………..Meeting…………..Ripon

          LAYS                                                  BACK

2.40   STEEL TRADES                                   AVITUS

3.10   no selection                                      MUSIC OF THE MOOR

3.40   REEL BUDDY STAR                             OSTEOPATHIC REMEDY

4.10   KENDALEWOOD                                 PATAVIUM…………………………1st @ 7.35

4.40   BLUE ZEALOT                                     QUITE SPARKY

5.10   BESTY                                                 MARK ANTHONY

Another good day for the LAYS with all five selections beaten, and a nice profit for the BACK's with Patavium.

Lays……..Profit to date +13.80 pts        18 from 19

Back……..Profit to date + 17.20pts

1:23 pm
26 May 2010


BrianH

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Post edited 6:09 pm – 26 May 2010 by BrianH


Wednesday 26th May……………..Meeting……….AYR

            LAYS                                                               BACK 

2.40 Euston Square                                          2.40 Silver Rime………………..Non Runner

3.15 No selection                                            3.15 Graceful Descent……….2nd

3.50 No selection                                            3.50 Alloro

4.25 Five Star Junior                                         4.25 Ingleby Star

4.55 Amoreuse                                                 4.55 The Bay Bandit

5.25 Just Call Me Dave                                      5.25 Bed Fellow………………..2nd

3 out of 4 lays successful today, but Five Star Junior hit badly at 13.5 on Betfair, the fourth winner of the day for Keiron Fallon. However, we are still just in profit. 

The Back bets were a little unlucky too, with a couple of runners up. No profit today, but overall we're still on the plus side.

Lays………..Profit to date ……… +4.15pts        21 from 23

Back………..Profit to date………. +12.20pts


2:55 pm
27 May 2010


BrianH

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Post edited 8:28 pm – 27 May 2010 by BrianH


Thursday 27th May

LAYS                                                  BACK

Wolves 3.00 Seradim                            Wolves 3.00 Mainstay

Wolves 3.30 Paddy Partridge                 Wolves 3.30 If I Had Him………….won @ 4.97

Ayr 5.20 Fiefdom                                   Ayr 5.20 Mr Lu……………………….won @ 4.83

Sand 6.05 Resurge                               Sand 6.05 Laudatory

Newc 7.00 Piquante                             Newc 7.00 Tagseed………………….won @ 3.15

Newc 8.10 Perez                                  Newc 8.10 Sendali

Newc 8.40 Hamoody                            Newc 8.40 Leonid Glow

Sand 8.50 Arachnaphobia                     Sand 8.50 Chapter And Verse

Weth 9.05 Option Money                      Weth 9.05 Ring For Time

Another good day, with all 9 lays beaten, and 3 of the Back bets coming in.

Lays………………..Profit to Date + 12.70 pts                30 from 32

Backs………………Profit to Date + 16.15 pts

11:20 am
28 May 2010


BrianH

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Post edited 8:35 pm – 28 May 2010 by BrianH


Friday 28th May

LAYS                                                  BACK

3.20 Newcastle SAN DENG                    LISBON LION

3.40 Brighton BERE DAVI                      FOUR KICKS

4.05 Newmarket BAUNAGAIN                BROTHER CHA

5.05 Newcastle BARASTAR                    JOZAFEEN

5.40 Newcastle BRAILLE                       ANOTHER TRY

5.50 Newmarket TEVEZ                        PRINCE GOLAN

6.20 Stratford UNCLE ELI                     COCKATOO…………..NR

7.50 Stratford KING HARALD                PAIRC NA GCAPALL

8.50 Stratford THE REAL DEAL             IRISH LEGEND

Another good day for the LAYS, with all 9 beaten again. Although a couple did go close to spoiling the party. 

Not so good with the back bets today, although Prince Golan was 1st past the post at Betfair odds of 16.55, but lost the race in the Steward's Room. And Jozafeen was just caught on the line at 25.35. So a poor day could have been so much better, but we are still showing a profit.

Lays …………………Profit to Date…………….. + 21.25pts           39 from 41

Backs………………..Profit to Date…………….. + 8.15pts

2:19 pm
29 May 2010


BrianH

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Post edited 10:07 am – 30 May 2010 by BrianH


SATURDAY 29th MAY

LAYS                                                           BACK

Catterick 2.55         Bold Marc                         Hobson

Beverley 3.10          Desert Falls                      Indian Skipper

Catterick 3.25         Gala Casino Star               Cheviot

Haydock 3.30         Lord Shanakill                  Mia’s Boy

Catterick 4.35         Frognal                            Lucky Dan

Haydock 4.45         Keenes Day     (NR)         My Arch

Beverley 4.50          Tanforan                          Provost

Beverley 5.25          Divine Spirit                     Perlachy

Another good day for the LAYS with 7 from 7 going in, however, the BACK bets again failed to hit the mark.

LAYS……………Profit to Date…………. + 27.90pts                  46 from 48 (96%)

BACKS…………Profit to Date………….  + 0.15 pts

12:55 pm
30 May 2010


TonyGrant

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Hi there, I have just found this thread and it sounds interesting to say the least hehe.  One minor point if I might be so bold to ask, I am actually blind and use a screen reader but the way you lay out your selections are a little confusing to me.  I understand you put them in columns for lays and backs but of course, if one of those columns is blank for any race, I have no way of knowing whether the selection is a lay or a back.  I did actually like the original format where you stated lay or back but maybe is that more work for you?  If there is any simple tweak that you could do that might help me read the selections clearer, then I would be most grateful.

Hope you don't mind me asking,

Best regards,

Tony Grant

1:29 pm
30 May 2010


BrianH

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Hello Tony,

I've sent you a PM (Private Message) regarding your query, with answers and possible alternatives. Hope that is Ok.

Brian

2:00 pm
30 May 2010


BrianH

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Post edited 6:59 pm – 30 May 2010 by BrianH


Sunday 30th May

LAYS

Newmarket   2.20   Ovthenight

Fontwell       3.00   Fongoli

Newmarket   4.05   Himalya

Fontwell       4.10   Man Overboard

Uttoxeter      4.25   Captain Marlow

Uttoxeter      5.05   Alfadora

Newmarket   5.15   Vanilla Loan

Fontwell       5.25   Rien A Perdre

Uttoxeter      5.40   Top Achiever

BACKS
Newmarket   2.20   Drawn Gold

Fontwell       3.00   Bolton Hall

Newmarket   4.05   Shifting Star

Fontwell       4.10   Silver Phoenix

Uttoxeter      4.25   Richard The Third

Uttoxeter      5.05   Petroupetrov

Newmarket   5.15   Sabatini

Fontwell       5.25   Forest Rhythm

Uttoxeter      5.40   Frosted Grape

Another cracking day for the Lays with all 9 beaten today. The Back bets again failed miserably, but i'm monitoring them just out of interest, as my ratings are designed basically to find LAY bets, so I may well ditch the Back bets after the end of the month.  

LAYS……………….. Profit to Date + 36.45 pts.               55 from 57 (96%)

BACKS……………… Profit to Date  (minus 8.85 pts)

12:41 pm
31 May 2010


BrianH

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Post edited 7:10 pm – 31 May 2010 by BrianH


Monday 31st May

LAYS

Carlisle         2.55   Methaaly

Carlisle         3.30   Oddsmaker

Redcar          4.10   Reve Du Nuit

Goodwood    4.20   Seamus Shindig

Leicester       4.25   Daniel Thomas

Carlisle         4.40   Fern House

Goodwood    4.55   Harare

Redcar          5.20   Ocean Bright

Chepstow     5.25   Dream Express

Goodwood    5.30   Dubai Gem

Carlisle         5.45   Call Of Duty

Chepstow     5.55   Stamford Blue

BACKS

Carlisle         2.55   Mandalay King

Carlisle         3.30   Bollin Dolly

Redcar          4.10   Daaweitza

Goodwood    4.20   Mujood

Leicester       4.25   Smirfy’s Silver

Carlisle         4.40   Miss Daawe

Goodwood    4.55   Batchworth Blaise

Redcar          5.20   Master Nimbus

Chepstow     5.25   Dualagi

Goodwood    5.30   Ghufa

Carlisle         5.45   Finsbury……………………..Won @ 7.00 Betfair

Chepstow     5.55   Loyal Royal

I can't believe how well these LAYS are performing right now. Another full house with all 12 beaten today. Although two did come to close for comfort at 14/1 and 16/1.   The BACK bets are not performing at all well, with only one winner today, and I will be dropping them from tomorrow.

LAYS………………. Profit to Date……… + 47.85pts        67 from 69 (97%)

BACKS…………….  Loss to Date………  - 13.85 pts       (to be discontinued from tomorrow)

2:03 pm
1 June 2010


BrianH

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Post edited 8:19 pm – 1 June 2010 by BrianH


Tuesday 1st June

LAYS

3.30   Redcar          Via Mia

5.15   Leicester       Gwilym

5.30   Redcar          Mister Island

7.20   Yarmouth     Denton Ryal………………….NR

7.50   Yarmouth     A Pocketful Of Rye

8.25   Yarmouth     Captain Risk

8.55   Yarmouth     Ocean Of Peace

Another good day with all the Lays beaten again.

LAYS …………………….. Profit to Date …………….. +53.55pts           73 from 75 (97%)

1:37 pm
2 June 2010


BrianH

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WEDNESDAY 2nd June

All these are at Nottingham

2.10  George Thisby

2.40  Ghost Dancer

3.10  Avongate

4.15  Stadium Of Light

5.55  Tivers Song

This evenings meetings will be posted later today

3:46 pm
2 June 2010


BrianH

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Post edited 10:17 pm – 2 June 2010 by BrianH


Wednesday 2nd June

LAYS

Kempton       6.20   Island Legend

Kempton       6.50   Yahrab

Ripon           7.10   Bertie Smalls

Ripon           8.10   Tabaret

Kempton       8.20   Aurora Sky

Kempton       9.20   Choral Festival

5 Lays beaten this afternoon, followed up with another 6 beaten this evening. 

LAYS ……………….. Profit to Date …… +64.0pts           84 from 86 (97.6%)


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